All rights reserved. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. CINDY: Um hmm. FLOTHE: Uh huh. CINDY: Nope. That was everywhere in the whole In the basement there was fish, there was wolf skin, there was stuffed animals everywhere. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. You know, like mine is. 17-year-old Cindy Paulson ran away from Hansen in 1983 as he was trying to load her into his plane and "take her out to his cabin," presumably a euphemism for the vacant Alaskan wilderness where he gunned down his victims. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. At an APD station, She explains to detectives that she was abducted and repeatedly raped. And we got to the house and he drug me downstairs to the as soon as you walk in theres a carpet to the right. CINDY: Yep. Uh, the first time I seen CINDY PAULSON was about a block west of, I think its a 76 station on the corner there of Gambell and 5th. CINDY: About eleven, eleven-thirty. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. CINDY: Like a convertible (inaudible), 1978 Buick Century 4-Door Sedan (This photo is NOT Hansens Buick, but it is similar). FLOTHE: Really dark color. Wanted to put some distance between them, in time and space, just in case somebody had seen them together. At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. In the 1960s he moved to Anchorage and opened a bakery of his own in a strip mall at Ninth Avenue and Ingra Street. CINDY: Sunday. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. For a man who had been a social outcast all of his life, it shouldve been an incredible feeling to finally be accepted; in his new town he opened his very own successful bakery with money obtained through an insurance scam, he and his new wife had a couple of kids, and Robert became a well respected member of society. I said I could meet him at ten or else at eleven. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? Paulson told Flothe in her interview, which is published in full on Leland Hale's website, the man who wrote Butcher, Baker: The True Account of an Alaskan Serial Killer: CINDY: He just said,. We deserve to identify ourselves and our many pieces, both personally and professionally. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? FLOTHE: So, youre in the car and he pulls a gun out and he handcuffs you. Others have never been found. The Big Timber, Mush Inn, I dont, sorry, I cant remember which one. There are so many different genres out there to do, so many different characters to play, so many different amazing actors and directors to work with. CINDY: I believe it was on a Friday and I gave him my telephone number and he called me on a Saturday. CINDY: They were a dark brown. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. CINDY: A little moustache. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. FLOTHE: You saw a bunch of money in his wallet? Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. CINDY: OK. What are your thoughts on the reception to Spring Breakers? * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. Do you remember what hes driving on Friday? FLOTHE: About what time? CINDY: Uh huh. Hansen would kidnap the women at gunpoint, tie them up, then fly to remote areas to kill them. What was it like working with Nicolas Cage and John Cusack? Hansen landed in a federal prison in Pennsylvania but didn't get along with other inmates.He served time in Minnesota before returning to Alaska in May 1988, corrections officials said at the time. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. Donations & Patreon membership will go towards keeping this site running. The work is being paid for by the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and a former forensic anthropologist for the Georgia Bureau of Investigation is working for the center on the case. He had been transferred to the hospital on Wednesday. CINDY: Uh huh. He was 75 years old. "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. In this installment, Cindy talks about and proves her observational powers, in this case related to Robert Hansen's house on Old Harbor Road. Required fields are marked *. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. FLOTHE: Where were you going to meet him at Saturday? Daigle, the corrections official, said that as far as she knows Hansen never saw the film. He was the lead reporter on the Pulitzer Prize-winning "Lawless" project and is part of an ongoing collaboration between the ADN and ProPublica's Local Reporting Network. So, just the fact that I put myself in this situation, in this character, to go through these emotions and make myself feel all that I felt is an interesting thing psychology-wise. The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. CINDY: Yes. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. FLOTHE: Did you give him the room number too? FLOTHE: Would you recognize this metal seat if you saw it again, do you think? And, getting to that point, "it's so powerful," she says. FLOTHE: Did he seem pretty sincere about wanting to get with you? And he said well he was gonna start getting his moneys worth. (Cindy Paulson), Cindy Paulson FLOTHE: Tapes turned back on. CINDY: Uh huh. FLOTHE: When you drove up to the house did you see any other cars there at the time? I actually shot that before I filmed this (The Frozen Ground) interestingly enough. CINDY: Yep. Hes amazing. CINDY: Yes, directly. (inaudible) You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or Still, knowing something and proving it are two different things, and Glenn was going to need a good deal of help solving this case. Other times, he would let the women go free in the wilderness and then hunt them with his rifle. Wife is shocked after husband of 15 years asks for permission to have an affair: 'I don't know what to do'. CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. All throughout the mid seventies and even into the eighties Robert carried on with his hobby of abducting and murdering women, and there's no telling how much longer he would've lasted had he not decided to attack a 17 year old girl by the name of Cindy Paulson in June of '83. "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. Glenn took what the FBI had said along with Cindys account of what Robert had done to her, and he obtained a search warrant for his suspects dwelling. It seems most likely that he was arrested for the sexual assaults in December of 71, remained in trouble with the law (he served a short prison sentence) throughout 72, and probably started killing after his release. CINDY: He just drove by. It had a long barrel. That seemed to be a common enough thing to do, plenty of troubled Americans had moved to Alaska to start a new life, and this worked out splendidly for Robert! We just want her to be identified.'. FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? FLOTHE: Describe this man to me. I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. Lets touch on this serials background for a minute, because thats important when looking at a killer. Required fields are marked *. 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So its early in the morning Did he only do a few takes or did he do as many as he felt he needed? While she was in her element, developing regional client solutions with diversely talented teams, she realized that her clients and many colleagues did not know much about her personal life. CINDY: The Buick Century. I just wanted to make her as full-hearted as I possibly could. CINDY: Yeah, it had a really long barrel. FLOTHE: OK. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? For the life of me, i cant see any reason why the state of Alaska, or anyone would keep robert Hansen alive after his conviction Why would you keep a monster like this alive and have the peoples tax money feed such an animal for years.. Cant wrap my head around it.. Alaska does not have the death penalty and has never had it (since Statehood). As part of his plea deal, Hansen agreed to help authorities find the graves of the murdered women. My wife and family were down in Arkansas visiting her folks places and, um, I had met her the first time up town. (sound of paper being torn off a tablet) If his social life hadnt been bad enough, he never could find much solace at home, either. Alaska serial killer Robert Hansen, who killed as many as 21 women, died Thursday at an Anchorage hospital. CINDY: He has kind of darkish, brownish hair. Your email address will not be published. The identity of one of his victims, who was found near Horseshoe lake north of Anchorage has never been established and now her remains are being exhumed. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. FLOTHE: This car that was in the driveway how new or old was this car? Cause I still got marks from the handcuffs on my hands. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. 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