However, I see the followers of this site not as such.. Christine Caine shares how she found out that she was adopted.Get Today's Offer From Joyce: https://joycemeyer.org/store Follow Joyce: WEBSITE: https://joycemeyer.org FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/JoyceMeyerMinistries/ INSTAGRAM: https://www.instagram.com/JoyceMeyer/ TWITTER: https://www.twitter.com/JoyceMeyer/ Joyce Meyer, one of the worlds leading practical Bible teachers and New York Times best-selling author, shares encouragement and advice to help us enjoy our daily lives. He takes the trials and tests and turns them into a testimony.". Paul wanted Timothyif possibleto win them over to the truth (2 Tim. Hearsay? Life and death is in the power of the tongue.nothing wrong with positive prayers and claiming blessings over our children. After reading several, my discernment tells me this is nothing less than a cult. 15 Moreover if thy brother shall trespass against thee, go and tell him his fault between thee and him alone: if he shall hear thee, thou hast gained thy brother. Christines book Unashamed is the third in a series including Undaunted and Unstoppable. Christine Caine engages in New Age practices condemned in the Bible, Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible, enjoys teaching young women to step into leadership roles that scripture forbids. Oh what horror! Mans heart is deceitful, and beyond cure..Jeremiah 17:9. John says that the congregation has a responsibility to refuse all support for such teachers. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven. Kenyons principal disciple was Kenneth Hagin Sr., the recognized father of the Word of Faith movement. Christine considers Joyce her spiritual mother: https://michellelesleybooks.com/2016/03/04/chhave-no-regard-for-the-offerings-of-caine/. When the bestselling author, internationally acclaimed speaker and leader of multiple international organisations appears on our morning Zoom call, she is straight off the treadmill, laughing and apologising for her appearance in a sorry-not-sorry way that epitomises her no-nonsense attitude. Purpose Driven Pray for wisdom and for Jesus to control your anger. (Marin) but I am discerning enough to know what to discard and when to take note of a truth they are speaking that I need to apply to my life. Well said. I encourage you to respect that just as you throw away everything that comes out of the mouths of Caine, Meyer, et al, please respect those who are able to throw away what they disagree with while also taking in what they find to be Biblical. But theyre not the only ones suffering shame; even those with a charmed life are prone to being ashamed of who they are, she said. Many dont like that a woman has been brought to task for doing something she shouldnt be doing. . Say sorry really quickly. If you cannot or will not refute those who contradict then you should not be a pastor. As long as Im abiding in him, then the testimony is, he says: No eye has seen, no ear has heard, nor has it entered into any persons heart the things that God has for those that love him (1 Corinthians 2:19). There is one church and we should be united. As followers of Jesus in whom all things were made, we acknowledge the Darug people as the Traditional Custodians of the Country where our Station is located. Inspiring people to follow Jesus and fearlessly change the world. Presumably, Apollos responded favorably to their correction such that Paul would later identify Apollos as a co-laborer in preaching the gospel (1 Cor. 25 But forasmuch as he had not to pay, his lord commanded him to be sold, and his wife, and children, and all that he had, and payment to be made. I pray that you havent turned anyone away from God by listening to your bunch of garbage. "God is able to take the mess of our past and turn it into a message. Evangelist E.W. Christine Caineusurps male authority and rebels against the clear word of the Bible Meyer teaches word of Faith heresies that are available for anyone to read. We read that stuff, but I dont know if we really believe it. We were diligent churchgoers, but it seemed to be more about our culture rather than a focus on a personal relationship with Jesus. People are NOT heretics and false teacher because they preach something we do not gree with. Think of it as Christ did when he fed the five thousand. Help keep The Christian Post free for everyone by making a one-time donation today. We won't be quick to criticise or condemn. Deuteronomy 18: 10,11,12 Some writers suggest that she was the more energetic of the two, and perhaps had the stronger character. Quotes. What we have learned in this last year, if we hadnt known it already, is that you cant put your hope in anything else. The baskets kept filling up no matter how much food they distributed. I think I can share a testimony now because I have ongoing victory in this area.. False teachers are those who preach against Gods Word. Esther was at that place and at that time fulfilling Gods purpose to save the Jews, neither Caine nor Meyers are here to save Gods people. Your talent will open the door but only your character can keep you there. It is not for me to judge you but maybe you should learn to shut your mouth. Paul even confronted Peter to his face about his hypocrisy in front of the fellowship. We recognise their continuing connection to the land and waters, and thank them for protecting this land and its ecosystems since time immemorial. Youre sitting behind a keyboard, hiding behind the well others did the confronting for me argument, which just isnt in scripture. I only speak on my personal experiences, what I have read, what I have heard, what I have been taught, and what interactions I participated in. But I will stand by comments regarding Caine, Meyer and all those that are still playing on peoples emotions while passing off a diluted version of scripture, once again if Ive offended anyone it was not intentional. Would anyone who claims to be a Christ follower choose to wear a pentagram? You come across as just wanting to be right. God is bigger than that. Instead of this kind of criticism, you should do as they do, pick a subject on your experiences, teach & encourage pole to walk in Jesus Christ. Where does it say its ok to have others do the confronting for you? 16 But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established. My life was as far away from God at that point as you could imagine [but] I went into this seminar, and this dude speaks the gospel in a way that was just so profound to me. 9 And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: it is better for thee to enter into life with one eye, rather than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire. -- Christine Caine . God gave you a lifeboat. Totally agree with her being a false teacher and not a pastor as its not Biblical. Where did you meet? I ask these questions in curiosity as Im truly baffled by the material I find here and all in the name of the same Christ that I follow.. > Quotable Quote. Learn that though life is not always fair, Jesus is NOT finished. If you cant see how presumptuous that is, well Youre assuming without knowing me, how do you know i would throw anyone in hell? She loves to read, swim in the sea, play netball and lift weights with her dad. Marin, before you apply anything to your life from C. Caine perhaps you can use your discernment to see the wolf under the sheep costume. Jesus called the Pharisees out to their faces. Lets get people into the boat and stop fighting amongst one another. But again, I think there is another way to inquire about someones search than to ask such condescending questions. People seeking God care about others. Apology appreciated. Such a person is not to be given religious recognition of any kind, because to do so would mean that the believers would then share in his evil deeds. Caine reportedly copied entire portions of Scott's book, forcing Scott to take legal action to settle the issue. Id like to know. You will have to stand before God in all things that you have said including the ways you are talking about Gods people here. (1 Timothy 2:12; Revelation 2:20). Their end will correspond to their actions., How is what you are doing here promoting the gospel of truth? Peters bad behavior in this situation had a teaching function, and so Paul says that he had to oppose him to his face and in the presence of all (Gal. When we as Christians criticize each other we in public settings we become a stumbling block for the lost and a weapon of the enemy. In numerous instances, the Bible commends believers to ostracize those who will not repent of their false teaching. Lets get anchored. A conversation about her marriage to pastor Francis Chan and their urban ministry in San Francisco. 2:6). Christine's desperate search for her roots turned up a birth certificate. How did they respond? Hagin (19172003) believed that it is Gods will that believers would always be in good health, financially successful, and happy. 35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses. I used to come on sites like this and tear down women like Joyce Meyer and Christine Caine, much like you do. These people you speak of are powerful speakers of Gods word.. Its to bad you didnt spend your time teaching the Love of God rather then sit here in judgment of people your time would be better spent. Its a Hollywood script! It is this which gives them away. I just wrapped up finals in Folk Religion & Animism at a fully accredited Christian university. We all ask for the spirit of discernment & as we grow in spirit, will soon know who is who or the Holy Spirit reveals it to us without you being judgemental to a fellow human being. I was full of shame, guilt, anger, unforgiveness and bitterness. Home 14 Even so it is not the will of your Father which is in heaven, that one of these little ones should perish. Courage, after all, is not the absence of fear. I didn't start 25 years ago with a global ministry. I understand a loving nudge in the right direction from a truly loving soul whos purpose in life is to point people towards heaven.. I remember cleaning the toilets as well. Incredible! Its not about who is qualified, whether they are male or female, whether they have gone to college for decades or even if they arent human. I find this website quick to site scriptures to denounce the heretic in question, but slow to provide biblical reference to support their own advice/logic. I thank God for all of the women who followed the call of God and took up their crosses, facing so much opposition in the process. So many people That's probably why I'm so intense, passionate, and serious about my faithbecause it wasn't a light decision. Read more quotes from Christine Caine. They make themselves rich by promising you the same. Christine Caine is wife to Nick, mother to Catherine and Sophia, author of Undaunted, and founder of The A21 Campaign, an antihuman trafficking organization striving to abolish slavery in the 21st century. The mum-of-two, who is now 50 years old, said it took 50 years to write Unashamed, because she has spent many years overcoming her shame and being confident in her own skin. All poster children of false teachers! I didn't really understand what was going on. Not tell EVERYBODY ELSE but them. So thats why it comes across as if you just want to brag Im SO right, and they are SO wrong! Show me how anonymously talking about people behind their backs is the Biblical way of correcting or confronting. Relational challenges, staff challenges, the whole world shifting and it was like: Chris, do you want to keep your foot on the gas? I could cruise Ive got so much momentum from 30-odd years of serving Jesus. For Christine Caine, healing and strength has come from spending time reading the Bible and allowing it to sink in, as well as being part of an encouraging supportive community of friends and a local church. I dont care if its a man or a woman who pulls me out of the oceans of apathy and despair, saving my life and soul. Where am I?So I thought:OK, Im gonna put it all out there. Those who persist in false teaching present grave spiritual danger and must be opposed. Amen (I Timothy 6:20-21). He wasn't helping me. I was born in Sydney, Australia. Here are the lessons the Church needs to learn, The Profile: In-depth interviews with hundreds of inspiring Christians. 21Not everyone who says to Me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven. What should our motive be in bringing confrontation? 17 And if he shall neglect to hear them, tell it unto the church: but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. The fact that there is no mention of a man has been used to deduce that she was a widow. The FIRST thing you should do when you have an issue with someone is to confront THEM. 21 Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? Priscilla and her husband were Jewish tentmakers, show me in scripture where she was referenced as a leader of her household? Also, I realize this argument is contentious among divided denominations who believe preaching and teaching are mens roles only in the church. I am perfectly okay with agreeing to disagree. I can understand why so many people hate Christians. So get people into the lifeboat. LOL! Christine Caines purpose in life is not to judge anyone toward heaven, on the contrary what she spouts is completely anti-biblical. While I am not an avid follower of Caine, Meyer or Beth Moore, the times I have seen them, their husbands were in the audience (and their travel schedules referenced). Christine Caine is the founder of A21, an international anti-human trafficking organization, and Propel, a woman's organization dedicated to helping women realize their purpose, passion and potential. I am not sure how you expect abusedand sexually abused women to be taught who they are in Christ by men, either. The Holy Spirit draws people to Jesus, whether we understand it or know it, its just a mystery. International preacher, speaker and author Christine Caine recently revealed that she had been diagnosed with cancer. Hope youll give us another try and check out some other articles. use to defend their position. 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