Actually, I talked to him. The girls were murdered before crossing creek and then carried across? Not sure how to send pictures, or if I ha e to be a member. Based on the nature of Libbys wound, his clothes would have been covered with blood. I believe that the person he worked in conjunction with is a younger family member, one that looks up to him as a father figure, may have been on the receiving end of his wrath once or twice and probably suffers from some type of mild mental illness or addiction. Its conceivable that he would muddy the waters about breaking the rule. And finally, note that SPA is said to be specifically trolling me about dolls being present at the site. An ejected .40-caliber shell found . I guess they dont put these guys under surveillance for life as they dont seem to be watching him over there. Remember when the FBI profile came out about BG? Instead I am saying this might be part of it. It just so happened there were two people in the same area that were kidnapping and murdering more than one child at once. You get it. He lives 5 mins away via car or he could of taken an ATV if he has one. Thanks for reading these gruesome questionsheartbreaking. She appraised the Flora home prior to it catching fire, and then her granddaughter & Abby died later. Best site on the murders and sorely missed. Can you solve this trivia riddle? The photos are very compelling but one thing doesnt make sense: You say both girls were unclothed and positioned the same way, except Liberty had a bra on. Also, the idea that someone couldnt learn enough about both areas in a considerably short amount of time to pull off either or both crimes and therefore could only have been committed by a local is pure bullshit. Email me with the full name please. At the time of his arrest in 2014, Altmeyer was working as a traveling auto damage field inspector, which allowed him to travel through Iowa and the Midwest regularly. He had served in the National Guard between 1977 and 1983, and was by all accounts a pretty regular guy. He had planned this murder for awhile, picked out location, placed objects near site all planned out, possibly catfising involved. The suspect, who appears to have no prior . I have the transaction number if you would like it. Thomas Bruce Missouri Catholic Supply Store rapist and killer. They were murdered in a very short window of time between 2:07 pm (when Libby posted a picture of Abby to Snapchat) and 3 pm (when other witnesses were in the area but heard no sounds). Why did they suspect this around May of 2021? I assume that BG destroyed it. I donated. I am a senior investigative officer. Delphi, IN Maxwell Residence One of the first residences to be presented with a search warrant in the murders. They call the guy DP and he is a person who was at the bridge/trails at the time and has been considered an eye witness. Thread starter Tricia; Start date Apr 22, 2019; On a side note, Reddit is so caught up in whether some younger fantasy Mark Whalberg version of BG is wearing a hat or not, theyre never gonna figure out shit from sharmin when it comes to this case. Black SUV with stickers on back window observed by Kelli German when dropping off girls. I realize that the FBI and LE have most likely looked into all of this (I mean hopefully), but its how you have to think. Dont think so. Delphi, IN Logan Residence One of the first residences to be presented with a search warrant since the girls were found on the owners property. Please point me in the right direction if that occurs. I really missed seeing your thoughts and insights posted glad youre back! Yes, the figure in the photo has her hands outstretched like a soldier who is surrendering to the enemy. I say this simply because I think he, just like anyone else, wants to be right at the end of the day, and if hes misleading people hes ultimately going to look like a bit of a tool. They sacrifice them to satan. Catfishing does look pretty good. Rails to Trails is an active organization in both locations. Small, inexperienced (in major crimes) police forces were first responders in both crimes. Good and bad, when people are motivated enough, they can do unbelievable things. I do not see how the cops can say that the public is not in any danger. Lee Hoard Delphi, IN prior Carroll County Sheriff named by a woman via her anonymously released journal released that detailed her statutory rape by this man, but there is no proof that he committed this crime. In Delphi, apparently on the day Libby and Abby were killed, RL had been gone all day, and the Mears were out of town. This is the one element of the case Ive never been able to reconcile the fact that LE called off the search before midnight on the 13th. Is this why he left the baby dolls? I fell down into a rabbit hole of podcasts (they are several good ones devoted to this story) and Reddit threads. Based on the information revealed by Leaker, he could only have been referring to Mr. X when he discussed the prime suspect in the case. The car, a silver-gray 2004 Ford Focus, was easy to catch up to, but the driver tried to distance himself from the pursuing vehicle when he realized that he had been caught. This may also tie into persistent rumors that one girl was in the early stages of pregnancy. Remember when it said that he may be unusually interested in numbers?. But in May last year, Libby's sister said she did not believe he was the killer. The Delphi Police Department, the Carroll County Sheriff, the Indiana State Police, and the FBI are asking for your assistance in identifying the suspect in the double homicide of two teenage girls, Abigail J. A knife appears to be plunged into either one girls shoulder or the log in back of her. This ties in with one of the worst rumors of all, that one girl was stabbed her stomach/abdomen and she was partly disembowled. Im a Catholic, not a Mason. Impressed. Are you a member of our sleuthing team on the private site? In addition, a woman who I am very close to, Team Member B or TMB, also spoke to a search party member, another woman who is different from the housewife in her 40s named Search Party Member B or SPB. I mentioned that a couple of weeks ago on Facebook. The skeptards now say it was kids playing on a trampoline nearby. Yeah. He was a suspect in this case at one time. Outlets for the Weichman pig company exist in both crime locations. A challenge argument to BG being a calculated genius is the fact that on a particularly warm February day, obviously nobody can predict precisely when/where people along the path BG took would/could appear once he was marshaling the girls. The 12 year old notified police quickly. Ryan Starnes Bloomington, IN Indiana State Trooper let go from his position after parents made complaint he was in a legal relationship with their 17 year old daughter. 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He claims he has access to court documents that someone who was investigated for the Delphi murders was given after they were covered, as a debriefing I guess? We are now able to reveal that one of the case documents we have is a search warrant for the Maxwell property. Garrett Kirts, Ashley Garth, Christopher Mathis, Jasmine Parker, Talitha Beckley Newton County, IN murder gang who killed Nicole Bowen. You also know a Hell of a lot about this crime. EXCLUSIVE: Revealed: Prison reform boss who drunkenly beat her husband every day after downing white wine Kyiv says Moscow's claims of a Ukrainian attack within Russia are 'a deliberate provocation': False flag Dirtiest places in your work kitchen revealed by grim swabbing test. If you have seen any of the Al Qaeda and ISIS beheading videos, you can see that huge knives were used to decapitate the victims. The three cities rest along the Cedar River and seem to have grown into one another, which has created a larger metropolitan area. If he killed before the creek crossing, where were the actual murders done? Some dirty, dirty shit is going down in Delphi. May I ask you if you could provide me with the picture(s) of inside the Mears barn? I wanna joinwont have my $20 till hopefully 1 PM eastern. If so, the crime scene was pre-set with toys? Those are the motives are more normal killer might have. Its an old rumor about Abby surviving a long time and trying to crawl away. Brian Phillips Delphi, IN man arrested for calling in bomb threat at Indiana Packers plant. Cheyenne) fsg (dc) Arguing couple (boyfriend) Delphi murders cops slammed for keeping people 'in the dark' STAR LIVES ON Ray Liotta's daughter gives heartbreaking tribute to late dad at Walk of Fame Police still ask anyone with information about the case to submit a tip at abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 765-822-3535. its by far the best example of investigation information that I have seen, and I had given up on this case after reading so much crap in other forums. Gas station attendant who said she saw MP purchase drinks for the girls the day they went missing. Motive would be more like the typical psycho motives serials have. DELPHI, Ind. We junked the Mears barn theory and after that, I went through and deleted the photos from inside the barn. Technology changes. It was a fake account and the pictures belong to a model and cop who lives in Alaska. Oh well. forgive these odd questions? If BG also did Evansdale, revenge does not seem likely. Thank you for this, Paul. (. People think this is the work of a lone man, one who is a loner, maybe transient but having some type of tie to the area. Do you know any specific details about the Evansdale case? He told them what he was doing and they didnt seem to care. AP Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13,. ', 'Something inside of me just says she was going to film that, come home and say look at this guy, he was acting really weird. SPB said they had all been ordered not to talk about what she had seen, but shed been holding it back for four years, and it was eating away at her and needed a release. During the nearly six-year search for a suspect, they did release a recording captured by one of the girls on her cell phone . Neither father nor son involved. Allen, who is also known as Ricky Allen and Rick Allen, is 50 years old and lives in Delphi, about five minutes from the murder scene. Delphi, Indiana - In the early days and months of the Delphi Murder investigation information was developed about suspect descriptions. I-65 will take you all the way down South to the Gulf Coast. Also the theory that a hatchet was used is still an unconfirmed rumor. (. Masons are required to pledge allegiance to the organization above all else, including their marriage and their church, and the further you advance the more secrets youre let in on. Appearance close to first sketch. The belief was that the girls would be able to respond to any searchers yelling. It was set up by three young men before the crime, maybe the night before. I imagine kids have been going out there for decades as well as undesirable folks as well. Oh well. Catfishing was one of my early theories and almost nobody liked it. This is totally forgotten here. The document may or may not refer to a .40mm handgun. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . Robert Lindsey is getting fed BS by someone else, it sounds like. One more thing: Many Luciferians are avid church-goers. Yes, they were found at the scene. Thank you so much! I got interested in Delphi about a year and a half ago. While I think its ridiculous to believe BG must have been a local, theres no question he spent time in both areas if hes responsible for both killings. We can also reveal that the following information can be gleaned from this document: LE is looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and/or film. We now think that BG worked at Indiana Packers in 2011-2012 and was transferred over to the Evansdale area as part of a large transfer of IP workers at the time. If the crucifix was upside down, of course that means satanic worship. Not only did she also tell TMB there were dolls at the site (specifically, dolls in trees), but SPB told TMB that there were dolls in trees at the site. This is the part that needs to be challenged. Its not 4-H for adults; its serious shit. Officers transport murder suspect Richard Allen during a hearing regarding sealed documents, Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2022, at Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi, Ind. Ok youre blocked. We believe that the girls had arranged to meet the catfish boy at the bridge that day, probably at a specific time. Also our investigator who went out and photographed the barn saw the Mears on the street. There is also a report of a girls scream heard at 2 AM in the search area reported by female searchers. Wonder if there were other Fs or 6s or representations of 6s in other parts of the scene. 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Delphi, Indiana, police have been notoriously tight-lipped about the killings of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams since the first news conference after the girls were found dead in February 2017. I think I deleted most of that stuff. That alibi is a lie. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. They were catfished for four months on Snapchat with the Catfish Boy (sketch #2) used as the catfish. However, LE sources close to the investigation that a former roommate of Mr. Xs who lived with him during 2011-2012, presumably during one of the periods when Mr. X was separated from his wife, went to LE with his suspicions that Mr. X was BG. What if BG had a change of clothes with him/on him. Joe Sandifur Flora, IN man arrested for inappropriate contact with a 13-year-old. How in the world could that be accomplished?unless it was two killers? Ok, now the dolls at the crime scene rumor is backed up by an additional search party member and a detective who is privy to the facts about the case. After you pay, email me and ask me for the link and the password. The figure outlined in your photo (Abigail) appears to have her arms at either side of her body. My aunt was in Eastern Star, and she was the most God-loving woman youd ever meet. As you will see below, LE now feels that BG also committed the Evansdale Murders. Hes killing them with almost surgical precision. Further to the Satanic Ritual Sacrifice angle, I read a little bit about symbolism and other ritual item use. It appears that a foot print at the scene matched the pattern of the workboots used there. From the beginning, a lot of people suspected it was someone that either worked at the girls school, or had intimate knowledge of the school schedule and knew the girls would be off school that day because of a Snow Day day off. Cleared. Some people like to watch football, others like videogames, macrame, or baking, and some people like to kill other people. Via a newspaper article in the Indianapolis Star and an LE sources close to the Delphi Murders investigation, we have learned that LE now suspects that BG also killed the Evansdale girls. LE is looking for a gun in order to do ballistics tests on it. She may have hidden it in a tree. Allen. Sleep well. Some kill for power. The man who created these images actually works independently as a physicist. At the bottom its nice guys wanting to serve their communities, at the top its pure evil. How about another one. All attempts to investigate the social media angle via Snapchat have come up empty. 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We wouldnt go into a mental institution and wonder what the motivation is for someone who is having a conversation with a lamp, so why would anyone worry about BGs motive? If his clothes were covered with blood, how the Hell did he get out of them and into clean clothes two hours after the murders? We havent been able to confirm it. Important clues can be easily missed and crime scenes unintentionally contaminated. By Jennifer Smith, Chief Reporter For Dailymail.Com, Published: 14:25 GMT, 10 February 2022 | Updated: 13:13 GMT, 13 February 2022. Im wondering if this is why the cops said that there is no need for the public to worry. The murdered girls, who attended Delphi Community Middle School where they played saxophone and volleyball together, had visited the bridge before the day they died. Whether these are packed into his jacket from behind, or perhaps carried in a backpack that is then covered by the loose, blue jacket he is wearing is another matter. Yes, I have heard a lot of pretty sleazy rumors about that place. I dont know. 2012 and 2017 are not the same as 2021 or for that matter, how 2022 or 2025 will be. He lived only 2 miles away up the creek to the east. He is the one that was texting Cody Patty, said, Bro shes only 14, if u have seen the leaked texted messages. There are signs for both Myers Lake and Delphis trails in each town and I believe also from both highways or overpasses nearby. There has to be a paper trail of some sort. Its definitely possible to literally get away with murder. We are quite upset at Leaker for flaking out on us like that, but we believe a ready explanation is available. We all make mistakes. The problem with Masons is that the lower levels are well-meaning, good-intentioned men who care about community. 3. I always would say to my team that I dont solve anything, we, the team, aided by the public, solve our investigations, and we should always be open to reasonable view points because one never knows what you may miss otherwise. I believe there may have been something said by LE about BGs eyes being blue? If there is indeed a child trafficking ring in Indiana, then it makes sense that they would make it look like all these kids died, instead of just missing, because people look for missing kids. And when they put their top suspect up against the Delphi Killer, the Delphi Killers MO fit the crime scene much better than the other man did, who was dead at any rate. He is def a weirdo. For one thing, Klunders MO and the Evansdale killers were completely different. Young Boy (name unknown) Made a post saying he was with BG when he murdered the girls. The truck was never searched, correct. Regarding backpacks, if one looks at close-ups of the BG video one can see that he is packing something on his back. Who is Brevard? Its still an interesing theory about shacks or barns. He knows the area very well. Tricky emoji quiz will put your knowledge of childhood classics to the test. Look at the second filter loop of this video, beginning at about 0:10 where we see BG in relief: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMiGVjTFokw. Just saw this. We dont know if he had a backpack or not. Thats breathtaking news! Camwell (Stu Sutcliff) sets Barbie dolls on fire in his videos. Evansdale and Waterloo tend to bleed into one another as well as the city of Cedar Falls, which rests on the opposite side of Waterloo as Evansdale. I also imagine Seven Bridges has been used by hunters both in-state and out of state and campers as well. He is also contradicted by Search Party Member A (SPA) a middle aged woman, who told two different people on our team, one of whom was me, that the girls were posed spreadeagled. See that long object in his right pants leg? Theres nothing there. That makes me wonder if the killer learned about using toilet bowl cleaner from somewhere like a slaughterhouse/meat packing plant in order to break down organic matter from pipes. Yes. Ive always suspected that the perp(s) have some serious protection looking out for them on several levels. It certainly explains some nutty things about this case that make no sense. No one reported a bloody person, or as far as we know, no bloody clothes were found. Might support the meatpacking plant worker theory. We know that for some reason, LE was very interested in Nations, who had been committing crimes involving hatchets. Timothy Holmes the of the pentagon pedophile task force has several mentions with proof of his research on the subject specific to Indiana. I figure that Leigh Kerr is correct on this, as he is on most things. Theres no evidence that they were taken away and brought back and killed, but its an interesting theory. LE point of view where it seems much easier for us to take action and gather the evidence as we go. I do this all the time with unknown posters. The murders were undoubtedly committed at the crime scene. What do we know from LE reports/statements to public or to the. Luke Britt, whose office is charged with overseeing the publics right to access of information lambasted the prosecution and the state stating that the information should have been available no later than . She spoke to me and TMA, and she told her all of the same things she told me. If anyone was walking a few feet away from the remains, they likely would have missed them. Pub puzzle depicting a 'common phrase' stumps thousands - before the What lack of sleep REALLY does to your face: Expert reveals the warning signs your skin is suffering. In fact, perhaps that is not the only search warrant in our possession. People have a cognitive blind spot when it comes to shit like that because they put THEMSELVES in the killers shoes, and they bring their own limitations/perspectives/shortcomings into the equation. On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. At least one girl in each set of girls was an avid online communicator. However, if you know about knives and the cutting of throats, typically a homicide victim with a cut throat is not cut very deeply because it is very hard to make a deep cut in a throat with a mere knife. How about getting your moneys worth? LE subpoenaed the cell tower records for a while back. 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